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Country of Origin:
Cameroon
                        Interview Date:
October 13, 2008
                        Location:
Arusha, Tanzania
                        Interviewers:
Lisa P. Nathan
Donald J Horowitz
                        Donald J Horowitz
Videographers:
Max Andrews
Nell Carden Grey
                        Nell Carden Grey
Timestamp:
0:01 - 5:31
                        
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Lisa P. Nathan: We	are	interested	in	your	experiences	and	thoughts	on, reflections	on	 your	time	here	at	the	ICTR	and	on	international	justice	and	on	what	it’s	like	to	be	a	 human	being	grappling	with	some	of	the	issues	that	you’ve	faced	here.
LPN: We	have	been	reading	and	speaking	with	others	about	the	genocide	and	this	 tribunal, and	for	the	people	who	view	your	interview	now	and	well	into	the	future, they	might	not	know	much	about	the	situation	or	about	the	legal	system. So	at	times	 when	I’m	talking	with	you	I	might	ask	you	things	that	you	think	I	should	already	 know, but	I’m	trying	to	have	you	explain	things	so	that	people	in	the	future	 understand	better.
LPN: I	may	ask	why	a	lot	and	that’s	because	I	want	to	make	sure	I	understand. Not	 that	you’re	not	giving	a	good	answer, but	I	want	to	fully	understand	what	you’re	 saying. And	if	you	use	terms	that	are	kind	of	technical	to	your	role,	again	I	might	ask	 you	to	describe	them	a	bit	more. And	we	really	want	to	understand	your	thoughts	 and,	and how	you’re	thinking	about	these	things. So	to	begin,	would	you	give	us	your	 full	name?
My	name	is	Colette	Ngoya,	Colette	Bernadette Ngoya.
LPN: Thank	you.	And	what	is	your	role	here	at	the	ICTR?
I’m	a	translator	interpreter	but	mostly	I	translate.
LPN: Okay,	but	you	do	both.
Yeah,	since	I	came	I‘ve	not	enter,	I've,	I’ve not	been	into	the	booth,	I	translate	mainly,	 yeah.
LPN: Okay,	but	you	are	trained	as	an	interpreter.
Yeah.
But	I’ve	nev-,	I’ve	never	been,	I’ve	never,	never	worked	as	an	interpreter in	the	tribunal,	 yeah.
LPN: But	you’ve	(_____)
LPN: Okay,	how	long	have	you	been	at	the	ICTR?
I came	here	the	26th of	March, 1997.
LPN: Okay.
That	is	about	11	years	ago,	yeah.
LPN: And	here	to	Arusha?
When	I	first	came	I	was	in	Kigali. And	I	left	Kigali	in	April 19-, 2001. That	is	seven years	 ago. Yeah.
LPN: And	when	you	were	in	Kigali	were	you	also	a	translator?
A	translator.
LPN: No	interpretation?
No	interpretation.
LPN: And have	you	had	any	other	roles	at	the	ICTR? Any	other	jobs?
No.
LPN: Okay.
No.	I	did	a	little	bit	of	administration	in	Kigali,	yeah	.	.	.
LPN: Okay.
.	.	.	but	mostly	translation.
LPN: And	what	training	did	you	have	before	you	started?
I’m	a	trained	translator. I,	should	I	tell	you	where	I	studied? I	studied	in	Cameroon,	I, up	 to	the	first	degree	at	the	University	then	I	went	to	Montreal,	the	University	of	Montreal	 where	I	did	translation,	Master's Degree in	translation	and	I	went	back	to	Cameroon	 and	the	interpretation	part	I	did	in	Buea in,	in Cameroon. But	I	was	recruited	here	as	a	 translator	and	that	is	my,	my training,	yeah.	My	main	training as	translator.
LPN: So	can	you	tell	me	where	you	were	in	the	spring	of	1994?
I was	in	Cameroon	working. I	was	working	at	the	Presidency	of	the	Republic	of	 Cameroon	in	Yaoundé.
LPN: Do	you	remember	when you	first	became	aware	of	the	genocide	in	Rwanda?
When listening	to	the	news, of	course. We	were	told	that	something	was	happening	in	 Rwanda. I	knew	about	Rwandans	because	I	had	a	classmate	who	was	Rwandese	when	I	 was	in	secondary	school	and	she	was	a	friend,	kind	of,	so	I	knew	about	that	country. And	when	they	started	talking	about	Rwanda, I	remembered	her, but	I	can’t say	we	 really	focus	on	the	news.
You	know, you	know	that	something	is	happening	but	you	never	really – you	don’t	have	 the	whole	picture	because	the	news	are not	as	complete	as	they	are	supposed	to	be. And	there	were	a	lot	of	Rwandans	in	Cameroon;	a lot	of	them	came, so	there	were	 programs	to	help,	there	were	programs	at the telev-, national	television	to	try	and	see. So	we	heard	about	it	on	the	news,	yeah.
LPN: Did	you	find – have	you	ever	heard	from	your	friend,	from	your	school	friend?
When	I	went	to	Rwanda	I	met	her. She	went	back,	she	got	married,	and	I	just	met	her	 by	chance	like	that. We	had	a	meeting,	a	Cameroonian	meeting	and	since	she	has	lived	 in	Cameroon	she	decided	to	come	and	then	I	met	her,	yeah.
LPN: So	you	found	out	that	she	was	okay?
She	was	okay,	yeah. She	went	back	and	she	was	okay. As	a	matter	of	fact	she	is	okay	 because	she’s	still	in	Kigali	now,	yeah.
 
                 
                     
                     
                     
                    